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Is Church-State Separation a Lie?

From an article of the same title by Steven Waldman on beliefnet:

When U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris said separation of church and state is "a lie," many critics figured this was a characteristic Harris gaffe--another sign she was out of the mainstream. Actually, she was reflecting what has become a common view in religious conservative circles--that the idea of separation of church and state was concocted by 20th-century courts, not the Founding Fathers... Conservative activists point out that the words "separation of church and state" appear nowhere in the Constitution--and they're right about that. The phrase came from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to a group of Connecticut Baptists in which he praised the First Amendment's "wall between church and state." When the Supreme Court quoted that letter in a key church-state ruling in 1947, the "wall" became the dominant metaphor. While political activists have lately pushed the more combative rhetoric, serious conservative scholars have long argued that the Founders were mostly attempting to block the creation of official state religions when, in the First Amendment, they wrote that Congress could not make laws "respecting an establishment of religion." Therefore, wrote former Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist, "there is simply no historical foundation for the proposition that the Framers intended to build the 'wall of separation.'" It's also true that when the First Amendment was approved, lawmakers assumed it would only apply to the federal government, allowing the states wide latitude in mixing church and state. (It was the 14th Amendment, passed after the civil war, that applied freedom of religion to the states)... But there's one important difference between mainstream conservative legal scholars and the Christian political activists. Most conservative scholars argue that the Constitution can accommodate a great deal of state support for religion, as long as the government avoids favoring one faith over another. Many modern Christian activists have argued that the U.S. is "a Christian nation" and that the Founders intended not only religion in general, but Christianity specifically... Christian activists usually make the argument by casting the Founders as orthodox Christians, except when it comes to Jefferson, who was downright hostile to organized Christianity.

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Hello Jonathan and all,Bush's Gift Horse has Hoof in Mouth AgainKatherine Harris' recent gaffe proves that the Republican Party is hell-bent on imposing a theocracy, regardless of what most people think, or what the US constitution says or the founding fathers said. While bedeviling us all with their holier-than-thou pretenses and thinly-veiled stage acting, they regularly "climb into bed" and trade favors with any scoundrel, cabal, or corporation willing to pave their path to wealth and power. Here is one more straw upon the camel's back evidencing the failings of any system that foolishly relies on money, religion, and politics to deliver truth and justice for all.Let's get to the root of the problem of deluded and greedy politicians who seek to impose their own ignorance on millions of others. Because of our reliance on money, politics, and religion, we are teetering on the verge of worldwide disaster. Idiots like Ms. Harris and her cohorts couldn't care less about everyone else as long as they get their hands on wealth and power, even if it means pretending to serve the Creator. It is long past time that people stand up for truth and justice and give these scoundrels their due. Read more here...Peace...

Can't say I really appreciated your comment, Mr. or Ms. Hand. Too much ranting, name-calling, vitriol, and assumed motivations. Nothing helpful or constructive.

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